iiull.l'%'lr. Offered with black or pearl grips in chrome or blue according to the catalog but this one has white grips. Mossberg did not put serial numbers on most long guns until 1968 (GCA 1968 required them) Parker Brothers Serial Numbers and Grades. If you want to become a sponsor and see your banner in the above panel, click here to contact us. Mod. On the right side of the frame, Union Switch & Signal inserted double spaces in "M 1911 A1" whereas Colt rolled it out all crammed together ("M1911A1") and Remington-Rand, Ithaca, and Singer inserted single spaces ("M 1911 A1"). VIII.-This is identical to the Mod. Model E-IX-A two vent rib second series which started in 1970. R.1 was made in 1973. This handgun sports both a checkered front and back straps as well as walnut wood grips. Mod. Here are a couple pics of it, I can post serial numbers if they will help. Also used the later style magazine. Jger Pistole Jger and Co. Suhl, Germany No. Llama IXA was produced as a replacement for the IX .45cal - large base mag. 'l!llltliMilillllinilim, No. 'Izarra' Pistola Automtica Bonifacio Echeverra Eibar, Spain No. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. :!,!,^!,!,^,!,', I I' I I'Hj H1 I 1'I I11'II I I t' 1 U' 1 M > I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. 2.5 2.5 out of 5 stars (6) $47.99 $ 47. Looking mostly for the model IV, VII, VIand the Ruby 45 even as a parts gun but will consider anything. The frame is numbered in the normal manner for a gun made in 98 and you can see where the old serial number and proof marks were removed. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. Parabellum caliber with a variant style of grip frame and hammer and has no grip safety. If you intend to buy something from Brownells, please use their banners above. VI.-This has been reported to be in 9 mm. IV.-This was the original Llama pistol, dating from 1931-32, in 9 mm. While in the Photograph on the right the slide is stamped LLAMA CAL. VII, but in three calibers: 7.65 mm. The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. The Llama Comanche is a state-of-art revolver produced in Spain by the Gabilondo company. It is a recoil operated, locked breech semi automatic pistol. p | II 111 ' I . It is solid, reliable, accurate and the weight handles the 9mm recoil like a dream. The pistols these 4 companies, Armera Elgoibaressa y Cia, Echealasa y Vincinai y Cia, , Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia, produced were not of the Gabilondo quality but were accepted by the French government. i I I i 'i . This gun has no proof marks whatsoever. The first pistol produced was an exact copy of the Colt Mod. Sometimes the mark is on the left side below the slide release. The date codes Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. This recall applies only to Daisy Legacy semiautomatic .22 caliber rifles Models 2203 and 2213, all with the serial number beginning with the letters AC. This ultra-concealable single stack firearm features a blued finish, 1911 style backstrap safety and safety switch, checkered grips, as well as a very cool vented top rail with adjustable sights. If it has a copyright let me know and I will remove it. Parabellum caliber with a variant style of grip frame and hammer and has no grip safety. Mod. It is not aBeretta 92 but a Llama design. Beristain y Cia of Eibar, between the years of 1916 and 1920 received patents for improvements to the Browning 1910, patent No. Somewhat later a variant pattern in 9 mm. After going This is the admission proof mark that appears on Spanish handguns submitted to the official government proof house in Eibar Spain after July 9, 1931. Llama actually started manufacturing these handguns as the Model IX back in 1936, this Llama IX-A was manufactured in 1984. ELOEIBAR (ESPANA)and be marked with the caliber of the handgun such as CAL. This book contains well over 50 pages of detailed information and illustrations all about the art of knife throwing. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. When first issued no model number was assigned but the factory catalog designation was No. I know the basic history of Llama but I'm not sure exactly what model we have. III. Short, second blowback pattern and more closely approached the external shape of the Mod. Thanks for the link. Piotti. I ;ur-po: rwp*.T5p. 322 7.65 mm. Both the solid rib and the vent rib were used, Llama model -XI 9mm P. The first design had the W spring detent and possibly came with only lined wood grips asthat is the only way I have seen them. Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. After reading some of the identification posts and finding "XVII" on the barrel, I "assume" it was manufactured in 1961. They also made it with El Soldado stamped on the slide, meaning the Soldier. There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. start with a single letter, like "A", from the 1930s. 1252895 gaa llama max i 45 pistol p803458 mos mossberg 500 410 shotgun r733890 mos mossberg 500 12 shotgun e121374 naa north american arms mini master target 22 revolver 23969, r ' r ! ' Resource: Spanish Handguns by Gene Gangarosa Astra automatic pistols by Leonardo Antaris The standard directory of proof marks by Gerhard Wirnsberger Official guide to gunmarks by Robert Balderson Llama model IX-A instruction manual. Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. VII. The Omni was not a success, primarily because the sophistication of the piece led to production costs, and a retail price, that far exceeded many of its more conventional rivals. Ameba Ownd - . Eibar, Spain No. Llama III self-loading pistol modeled after the Colt 1911, and chambered in .380 ACP. For a revolver, where reloading takes place by means of the turning of a cylinder, an over pressure load is used. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. I have seen the Llama and Cal. At the beginning of WWI Gabilondo presented the gun to France for trials and it was accepted in 1915 with orders for 10,000 a month. The trigger guard is shaped for a better two-hand hold, and the sights are fixed. Note that most will not be hilited in white as these are. 1911. Mod. The "M1" stamp on the frame leads us to believe that the pistol was manufactured in 1967. Mod. 7733, !b.wJi' ''' ' '.I'111'1'!'1! Now under the left grip I found an F followed the numbers 234 which also happens to be stamped on the barrel trigger and back strap. It was produced from 1936 and was still made in 1953 but does not appear in 1955 factory literature. It is dangerous and illegal to ship a loaded firearm through the mail. This command uses the Windows Management Instrumentation Command . Shown with grips that I think were never used on US imports. As a result of this only Astra continued to make guns after that territory was taken over by the Nationalists. Short, second blowback pattern and more closely approached the external shape of the Mod. This intriguing book focuses on the ninja's techniques and training. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. Exploded view of the IIIA, VIII, .IXA, XIA. i f t 11 t aTaf o iIt 1 *t t^TI tn I, No. Very similar to the Astra Victoria from earlier years, While this gun is nothing more than an Ultra Plus it is marked Danton War Model. I suppose in an effort to reduce costs they decided not to use the locked breech system found on earlier guns. Parabellum, 9 mm. Model 82. On some guns this proof may appear on the left rear of the slide, on the left of the frame or on the barrel in the ejection port. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. From my research, I think this is a German distributor, but I don't think it is Geco. LlamaPolice Model- Manufacture 1933 date code F, blow back operated, cal 7.65 or .380, 7 round mag, barrel 3 ". Hopefully I'm in the right forum. Llama 1911 Serial Number Lookup Llama Pistol Serial Numbers Llama Handgun Serial Number Llamapage Spanish Blue Steel by Llama Or as translated from Spanish Flame RK Smith There is an enormous amount of incorrect information out there about the model numbers on the guns Llama made and I have done my best in identifying them to correct it. Mod. 73214. Llama XI A - 9mm P - full size gun with 5" barrel . All proofing of handguns in Spain still occurs in the city of Eibar at the Banco oficial de Pruebas(official proofhouse) and the same symbol is still applied to this very day. 'IlllillililT^ililfllllliHlil r ,.,.,!ffl.7l0,i|i,1.l,*.,.,I,il.m, r ' r ! ' Your help is appreciated. 'Le Secours' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. Item #: 963423345. Marlin Firearms. Llama 38 Special Serial Number Lookup Llama 38 Serial Number: RRR1941018.. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. After the late 1980's. |i 111111 ! Search Amazon. 37963, ' I tI M 111 m 111 nI y 11 I' I' I' I' I' I J'lM'li[inin^ni|ii, > . I am sorry it didn't keep them from going under. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. My last question: any idea on value? i , No. In 1931 it was decided to modernize Bev Fitchett's Guns Survival (current) FREE Military Tough 6-in-1 Tactical Survival Knife Free 2nd Amendment Gun Rights Silver Coin Elgoibar, Spain No. I am thinking that Llama had a slide or more that were over runs and they simply used them on later guns, but have no way of knowing for sure. Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. How to find Llama serial number on Llama guns.. this process and this procedure. These black serial number plates were used in the early Generation 2 Glock 19 pistols in the same serial number ranges as their Generation 1 Glock 17 siblings. TheGABILONDO Y CIA. Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. I, to which no model number was originally assigned. 328 7.65 mm. 1,000 produced, 4 digit serial: Mauser Banner Dated - produced 1936-1942 Unknown contract Caliber 9mm Parabellum - 4" barrel A few thousand produced, 1 to 5 digit serial with letter: Swedish Contract - produced 1938-1939 Military contract Caliber 7.65mm or 9mm Parabellum - 4.75" barrel 330 produced, 4 digit serial: Code 42 Dated - produced 1939 . This indicates that the pistol was manufactured in 1984. I would not exactly call it a rib because it doesn't appear to be for that purpose. Present day handguns will show a slide marking with either LLAMA CAL. II.-This 9 mm. The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. The LF which stands for long frame came in a variety of finishes, but never Stainless Steel as may be claimed. Big Sean Finally Famous Deluxe Edition Zip Sharebeast. If so, any suggestions as to where I might pick up a couple. 1111 riii?li(i tiiYTti it, No. This is a post-World War II production. Payment should come from the FFL Firearms Dealer . Llama Mod. From what I found it looks to be a Llama III. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama" which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. (asterisk) and then the number '2' as in 'D.2'. I except for magazine capacity. Galesi Mod. 37272, 'limlll^'llltlM^lHl!,!^ I* 1 imlllTltfllTltU li mTt I nil', 1 i' I' I ' '(|' 1 1 I' ' 1 I' ' 1 11 ' ' ' ' 11' 1 11 ' 111 I 1 I ' I 1 ' ' I ' ' 1 I 11 1 I' I 1 I ' |' I ' M |, I! This particular pistol was Nazi marked and the seller gave the name of the company that the mark belonged to, but I can't remember it. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. For instance, my. 1911. It was my understanding that these guns were made in 1997 only, but this one was made in 2001 and is chrome plated. It just looks almost brand new with almost no wear. I need a clip for it. Some time after the late 1980's. However, many police departments do not offer this service. Note monogram on grips Tomas de Urizar y Cia. I always figured the 38 stood for acp rounds like it does on Stars, but this changed my mind. IX.-First described as a recoil-operated style of the Mod. For Swiss bayonets you can use the SwissWaffen . Llama Pistol Identification - Firearms identification Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. I was identical to Mod. Largo/.38 ACP is identical to Mod. Caliber is marked on the front of the slide where is says Llama and can be seen in the larger photo. ' ' ' ' ' ' '' ' ', No. This is in addition to the retail price of the gun and shipping costs. Sorry for posting 3 times. On Windows 7, press Windows + R, type "cmd" into the Run dialog, and then press Enter. V.-Made in 9 mm. The rear sight became adjustable with a screw for windage. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. Reason: punctuation 28th March 2005, 14:31 #2 cls12vg30 New Member Join Date 24th January 2005 Location Raleigh, NC Posts 7 Posts liked by others 0 The gun looks identical to the model VII in every respect except the caliber markings. By searching for the rifle serial number (search box ' Rifle Serial Number ' above) By using the SwissWaffen.com all rifle serial number list page or the all rifle serial number PDF. The frame and slide of the M82 are made from steel, so the gun is relatively heavy, but strong. After WW II the serial # reads with barrel to the left (except for serial numbers on the fore strap thru 1957). I n 11 ' I J .J. Purdey. This mark is what the law calls for except it would have been nice if the importer would have hid this stamp under the grips rather then stamping it on the side of the receiver. Remington Firearms Thank you. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. 111111 MI 11111 ml 1111 ft ml 111111 m 1111111 m' < J, !i*tiTtittiii7iViti'fiifi!t*iTftitiii>ifiiii9aitilifftlfit>fiifil>i!laiitItf2tliciiffiifiiti!iiiiliiiiVtiitl, No. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. For pistols built before 1936 the mmarking would be: Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9MM/.380IN Llama, Llama Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9mm .380, The best source of data would a for a fee service run by the Blue Book of Gun valuses run it thru www.bluebookinc.com, Numrich Gun Parts Corporation An interesting note is that Spain took longer to establish national proofing laws and standards for firearms then some of the other important firearms producing nations, notably Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Great Britain. No. The safety does not affect the slide, so it can be cycled and the cartridge chambered with the safety on, but the hammer will not stay in the cocked position. All of these stampings on this pistol have been double struck. VII, but in three calibers: 7.65 mm. LLama 38 special Description: Nice Llama 38 special, very similar to the Smith and Wesson 29-2 44 magnum revolver's, this gun has a little holster ware but retains about 90% of it's dark polished bluing, has a 4' vented barrel with good rifling, smooth trigger pull, locks up nice, nice grips. This handgun comes with one 6-round magazine. If you try to sell it to a gun shop, you can basically expect jack squat. Hi, I am trying to find out the year on a recently purchased Llama .380. A further improvement of the blowback pattern was undertaken and this second blowback style was issued from 1935 on. 1911A1, but without the grip safety, and in 9 mm. Three vent first series starting in 1955and being made thru 1969. Llama Serial Number Lookup Llama Firearms , officially known as Llama-Gabilondo y Cia SA , was a Spanish arms company founded in 1904 under the name Gabilondo and Urresti . 1 ; . ' It came to me directly from Spain via my importer. The codes are the same whether it's a Llama, a Star, or an Astra To get the year for your code, google "Spanish pistol date codes" Here's the one I use most: Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. Mini Max - 9mm, .40 cal, .45 cal. Any help with this would be very much appreciated. This is a little known model used by the Spanish Policein .380 if it had a model number it is unknown by anyone. All of the guns supplied were blue, 9 shot with checkered wood grips and accompanied by three magazines along with a holster supplied by the French. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. X. Mod. s| 111111 11 i i I ' . The codes began with A in 1927, and after reaching Z in 1954, continued with A1 in 1955. 528. Serial number- 399902. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. It was designed after the semi-automatic pistol. For instance, my Llama has "D*2" on it. Llama VI may have been given to these pistols. Possibly more but the other one I have seen. nf I tutmTItinln li!i?ttl-'0|Milli'^ z r; 111 'In irlu'f m-Tniilniifi!--: m'T'-'-y ; ri-i-ij ^ i < i J.immtim , j11 ' i ' i | i11 ' ' I 1 ' I Ij 1111111 i n I M M . The list price of the Omni 9mm in the 1983 Gun Digest was $599.99, at a time when the S&W Model 59 listed for only $371.50. . I have read that they are not the most reliable guns but I believe I may buy this one. That is all helpful when you look for parts or other information on your pistol. 'F. Jun 24, 2012. The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . The right place to find all older Star pistol model numbers is on the butt, as seen in the illustrations below and photo to the right. Website by Hudson. The table below indicates the various year codes. Fully recoil-operated Llama pistols of the Mod. Llama model IV - 9mm largo - 38 acp. III-A.-This post-World War II version of Mod. Answered by a verified Firearms Expert. You can search "Llama Date Codes" which may show as Star Date This pistol was developed by Llama in 1986 and was adopted by the Spanish military in 1988. This is then followed by two more rounds fired at normal pressure levels to determine whether the self loading mechanism is still functioning properly, if it was, then the stamp was applied to the firearm. The problem I am having is that the D says its made in 1931 but the pictures for this gun say they started manufacture in 1933. This is a post-World War II production. Model VII is chambered in 9mm Largo and marked 9mm /38. Llama Model 1 (A-31 or. 318-A 7.65 mm. My understanding is that at this time Gabilondo had 5 employees. This pistol is still made. Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion.
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